Published: 9 September 2024
Last updated: 21 August 2026

Season Three: 2026: After the Bondi massacre
In “Episode 6- BONUS EPISODE,” hosts Rob Kaldor and Isy Oderberg reflect on the 3rd series of Tensions Transplanted by asking all the guests the same question- "When this period is written about in ten years, what will we have misunderstood?"
They are joined by Palestinian activist Hamza Howidy, Dr Hass Dellal AO, Chair of the Australian Multicultural Foundation; academic Professor Michele Grossman AM, pollster and social researcher Kos Samaras, Australian Human Rights Commission President Hugh de Kretser, Board member, creative and researcher Noe Harsel, Federal MP - Julian Leeser, award-winning journalist and academic Margaret Simons, commentator and author Van Badham and Movement Against Antizionism founder Adam Louis-Klein & educator and activist Zachary Schaffer.
In “How do we unf*ck It,” hosts Rob Kaldor and Isy Oderberg turn from diagnosing Australia’s deepening social fractures to asking what it will actually take to repair them. They are joined by Dr Hass Dellal AO, Chair of the Australian Multicultural Foundation; academic Professor Michele Grossman AM, pollster and social researcher Kos Samaras, educator and activist Zachary Schaffer, board member, creative and researcher Noe Harsel, Palestinian activist Hamza Howidy, award-winning journalist and academic Margaret Simons, commentator and author Van Badham and Movement Against Antizionism founder Adam Louis-Klein.









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Mark Ian9 June at 10:29 pm
The Australian Jewish Community has many from the Holocaust Survivors and South Africans and Russians who experienced anti-semitism so the support for Israel is strong but many are perturbed by the humanitarian situation in Gaza .
The attack on military targets in Iran namely the nuclear program and ballistic missile and drone production is supported even the Labour Government offered support because of the need for the USA as an ally.
Jeremy Epstein5 October at 07:08 am
Well done Uncle Rob and team TJI, I believe you were largely successful in the extremely difficult task of producing a (much-needed) balanced, sensitive, and well-researched podcast on this topic. I’ve always been politically left-leaning, I’ve never identified as a Zionist (despite being proudly Jewish), I’ve always been critical of goings-on in Israel (particularly of the illegal settlements in the occupied territories), and I’m in favour of Palestinian statehood. I’ve more commonly argued with fellow Jews (including with my own family) than with non-Jews about Israel. Nevertheless, what you discussed in Tensions Transplanted really hit home for me: despite my views, those tables have turned for me of late (including heated discussions with some close friends of mine). And I’ve stood in the Sydney CBD, and I’ve heard the approaching mob, and I’ve seen the flags waving, and, like others, I’ve felt threatened. I was sorry to hear you recount the personal stories of many Aussie Jews who have clearly suffered more than I, on account of all this. I think all we can do for now, is to try and stay cool-headed, try and be empathetic and respectful to all, and wait for the storm to pass. In time, wider Australia will remember that there are many many issues that are closer to home and that are actually much more pressing than this one. Personally, I always have and I will continue to support the Greens, despite their extreme stance on Israel, because they’re the only major political force in Australia that actually cares about climate change, habitat conservation, renewable energy, asylum seekers, and Indigenous affairs, to name a few causes. This current situation of over-the-top and ill-informed “stop the genocide” / “from the river” rhetoric stampeding over every other concern, it’s not forever, we must be patient.